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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:00 PM // 20:00   #1
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Default Points for ressed foes

A lot of times when you're farming rep points, you come across foes that res each other. It's very annoying and we don't get points for killing them again. So my idea is to let us have the points even if the foe is ressed.

Exceptions would be for bosses, and maybe if it's a ressed foe we'd get half the amount of points we would normally get. Perhaps in hard mode we still couldn't get the points for a ressed foe, but in normal mode I see no problem.

Or, if it's the res skill that's the problem, consider the self-ressing mandragors in Grothmar Wardowns. They res randomly even when the group is dead. No skill brings them back to life, yet they still res and we still get no points for killing them again. I think we should at least get points for foes that res themselves.

What does everyone else think?
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02   #2
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There was a lb farm that was abused because of getting points off of ressed foes it won't come back.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:04 PM // 20:04   #3
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You mean bring back afk LB farming?

No thanks. It was changed for a reason.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:11 PM // 20:11   #4
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What they said, it'd be abusable.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:30 PM // 20:30   #5
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Such thing would only work if:
- The party has been wiped out and is resurrected in a sanctuary far aways from the enemies, so they are out of radar.
- A lot of time has passed since they where resurrected, about 10 minutes or so.
Otherwise it could be highly exploitable.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #6
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Was a feature that got abused in the past, don't count on it coming back.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:55 PM // 20:55   #7
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Yea, this was removed for a reason and ideally you should kill foes before they rez or interupt them so no point rewarding playing worse.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 08:58 PM // 20:58   #8
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Bring that ranger spirt that stops ressing in the area, forget the name><

/not-signed as mentioned above abusable
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #9
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I agree i hate foes that res themselves like inflicted ritualist with flesh of my flesh in around KC and the dominators in Grothmar Wardowns with res chant.
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 09:50 PM // 21:50   #10
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[frozen soil] FTW!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 09:55 PM // 21:55   #11
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Considering you didn't add a poll:
No.

This is just a bad idea, I don't care about whatever reasoning you may have for it. The idea of wondering out of Doomlore and camping a bunch of insects when I could be doing full vanquishing doesn't appeal to me. Yes, I know it would be optional, but I'm damn lazy. I don't want the option to be even more lazy than I already am. I play Pokemon while farming! Laziness is a bad thing, it makes you not eat and drink tea instead.

Oh yeah,
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25   #12
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So, we can't get drops from resurrected foes, but you want us to be able to get points from them? No. From an in-game/lore perspective, and not a abusing/game mechanic perspective, you kill the monsters once, if they are brought back to life, you don't get "fame" for killing the same monster several times (in real life instances, you actually lose fame from doing the same thing over and over again).

So player-wise, lore-wise, and game mechanic-wise, this is a bad idea. Too easy to get points, people don't get more fame from doing the same thing over and over, and the kills of resurrected foes do not even count towards counters like Vanquishing anyways, so you'd have to change that and the bounty bonuses (from killing x amount of foes) if you were to change this.

No poll to vote in so /notsign
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 11:26 PM // 23:26   #13
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They should just take rezzes away from PvE monsters, that's just annoying and unnecessary imo....

But yeah, afk LB farm ftl, so /notsigned
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 06:47 AM // 06:47   #14
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What about LOOSING points for ressed foes? After all, its kinda fail if you allow them to get ressed to being with.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zwei2stein
What about LOOSING points for ressed foes? After all, its kinda fail if you allow them to get ressed to being with.
This I can agree on. It would course so much rage. Fun time.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 01:19 PM // 13:19   #16
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oh and beside frozen soil, you could just kill the enemy while hes ressing. i laugh when enemy monks res. 1 new guy 3 guys die in the time it takes to res
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39   #17
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I'd rather have a change to eliminate mobs ressing completely than have this suggested change implemented.

imo leave it as is....
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 01:39 PM // 13:39   #18
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guise, its okay because you dont have to kill rezzed foes if you dont want to
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 03:31 PM // 15:31   #19
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Tender, do some research on things you want to suggest to see if they are worth your time. It wouldn't be hard to learn why it was changed, and the fact that it was indeed changed.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 06:58 PM // 18:58   #20
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And people, READ WHAT I WROTE BEFORE YOU REPLY. I said that in hard mode this shouldn't be an option, OR if a foe has a res and resses an ally it also shouldn't be an option. But for the mantids that self-res when there are no other mantids around like in Grothmar Wardowns, then we should get points because they res for no effin reason.
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